Blank Check with Griffin and David Wiki

Hollow Man is episode 149 focusing on the movie of the same name, as part of the Podship Casters miniseries covering the Hollywood years of Paul Verhoeven. Posted February 25, 2018.


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Coiner of the term "blender" and friend of the show Alex Ross Perry is back with Griffin and David to talk about a movie that, surprisingly among the entire Verhoeven filmography, Alex specifically wanted to talk about. He saw Hollow Man twice in theaters on opening weekend! What?!

This is a big CGI special effects showcase, but even though it's from an era where the CG is often outdated, this movie's effects hold up and look great. Too bad it didn't win the Oscar, getting beaten out by Gladiator (whose effects now do look rough, says David). But after the whole "it looks cool" thing, what else is there to this movie besides a slasher flick?

Kevin Bacon is David's favorite actor, and in this movie you somehow get to see both very little of him and a lot of him. (ba-dum-bum, kssh.) He beat out Robert Downey Jr. for this part. Was his role in this movie the boundary marker between leading-man movie stardom and... being out of the game? Paul Verhoeven is self-critical about the final result of this project - how is he right and how is he wrong? Elisabeth Shue has the "Final Girl" role in this horror - but what is the deal on the credits billing? How in the world did Verhoeven come back from this and make Black Book and Elle years later?

Apropos of nothing in particular: Kim Dickens is awesome.

Milestones and Ephemera[]

  • Cool Scientist Wardrobe: from the Regis Philbin "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" Collection
  • Lateness of Griffin to the recording session: two hours
  • Possible replacement for the Dark Universe: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (LXG)
  • A rich 6'-2" dwarf: Josh Brolin
  • entries for Blank Check Bingo: Waterloo, patina, Rosetta Stone
  • Bacon's blender: Twinkies
  • Some kind of running gag on Craig Kilborn's late night show: Joey Slotnick (does anyone know what the bit was? Please, Alex needs to know!)


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