Showgirls is an episode focusing on the movie of the same name, as part of the Podship Casters miniseries covering the Hollywood years of Paul Verhoeven. Posted 11 Feb 2018.
Caroline Framke (Vox) joins #TheTwoFriends to discuss the first studio-funded NC-17 movie (and huge flop on initial release), Showgirls. Caroline also related her unique experience of seeing the film for the first time: at a screening in a Hollywood cemetery with 4000 drunk people, on the 20th anniversary of the movie's release, with Elizabeth Berkeley as an introductory speaker. Can't beat that!
"This movie starts at the bottom, and goes lower." Griffin and David began this miniseries with the basic building block of 'Paul Verhoeven is Goldmember from Austin Powers.' By this point, however, he is more of a trickster imp who makes a basic pitch to studios, takes their money, and then cackles devilishly and scampers off to make movies about the most base and terrible aspects of human nature.
Poor earnest Elizabeth Berkley. Listen to the list of actors who turned down her part - did they all foresee how poorly Verhoeven would represent them on screen? Berkley got a lot of blame for this financial flop, maybe undeservedly so - did she ever get her career back on track, and were Kyle MacLachlan, Gina Gershon, and Paul Verhoeven affected at all? This is movie is NC-17 with a ton of sex and nudity - in what ways does it subvert the titillation to a point where even teenage boys are aghast? This is another insane Joe Ezterhas script - what was he on?
Will Sarah Huckabee Sanders or Elizabeth Berkley be the president of the USA by the time this recorded-far-in-advance episode is released? (spoiler alert)
Sponsored by Blue Apron. The ghost of Julia Child rings the doorbell and visits the studio - she is tormented by being unable to go shopping for food with her ghost hands. David offers up the idea of Blue Apron, which sends fresh ingredients for recipes right to your door. $30 off for listeners, blueapron.com/check. And with that, Ghost Julia departs with her friend Casper. Twist! (Jon Favreau's character in Chef, not the friendly ghost one. Double twist!)
Milestones and Ephemera
- Eating on-mic: yes (Griffin with a white cheddar bagel twist, Caroline with skittles)
- David's celebrity lookalike, according to a random woman on the subway: Blake Shelton
- David's sex philosophy: do whatever you like to do, as long as everyone's happy and warm