Episode #135

Zero Dark Thirty is an episode focusing on the movie of the same name, as part of the Pod-19: The Widowcaster miniseries covering the filmography of Kathryn Bigelow. Posted 12 Nov 2017.


Demi Adejuyigbe ("The Good Place," the Gilmore Guys podcast) joins Griffin and David to discuss 2012’s American revenge political thriller, Zero Dark Thirty.

Apparently this movie was first announced as a film about how frustrated the USA military and intelligence community was that Osama Bin Laden had evaded capture since 9/11. Then six weeks later, suddenly he was dead after a 12:30am raid in Pakistan. What did Bigelow do in response? Well, she had screenwriter Mark Boal write an essentially all-new script with the opposite premise instead. Was that a wise move, or should she have continued forward with the original idea?

As is befitting Bigelow's latter-day career direction, this story is based on actual people and events. But with this docudrama approach, do her movies these days have any shelf life at all? Is the CIA agent this movie is based on problematic, in terms of ethics. morals, and monomaniacal career? How Method did the actors go for filming some of the, ah, 'enhanced interrogation' scenes? Can anyone in the studio do a decent Gandolfini impression? Did the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner unmoor American politics as we knew them, and followup, will Jason of Friday the 13th fame begin hosting a new season of "Celebrity Apprentice" on NBC?

Milestones and Ephemera

  • Whoops! No Ben nicknames for this episode.
  • Creech - not yet met by Griffin
  • Cat In The Hat movie makeup: less freaky than originally planned
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